Steyr C9-A1 vs. Glock 19 (9mm Compact) (self.Firearms) submitted 6 years ago by macg3nius. So I'm looking to get either a Glock 19 or a Steyr C9-A1 in the near future. I've been reading some glowing reviews about the Steyr's trigger and general build quality over the Glock. I am a fan of the HK45 and P30 (.40 S&W) given the excellent SA trigger.
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GLOCK EDUCATIONAL LINKS:Related Subreddits. I have a friend who is an avid Glock fan who wanted me to get a Glock 19 instead of what I ended up getting which is a Beretta M9A1. I personally like the Beretta because it has a full metal frame which I like the feel of more than a composite frame. That was pretty much the selling point for me on the Beretta.In what ways could you come to the conclusion that the 19 is a better buy other than the fact that you can burry the Glock in salt water and tiny particles of sand and still pull it out and shoot it no problem? I know this is a very subjective question but I wanted to get opinions for my next purchase. The Beretta 92FS is a great first gun.It is heavy so it mitigates recoil well, it has several safeties (including an external one), and it has good balance. Additionally, the SA/DA trigger is a great way to learn the mechanics of firing a gun.That being said, it does have some downsides:.Any time metal is interacting with metal, it will inevitably require more maintenance.
Subsequently, it will be much more susceptible to debris in the moving channels, and will require a much more thorough cleaning after extended use.Also the bore axis is quite high compared to a Glock. I know this is a personal preference, and a high bore axis is not unique to the 92FS, but it is something that I consider very important in my pistol of choice.
I simply don't shoot as well with a larger axis.Lastly, as helpful as it is to learn to shoot with a DA/SA setup, once you are an experienced shooter the changing trigger pull can become a hindrance. This is further compounded by the possibility of an exposed hammer catching on something during a defensive scenario.A lot of this boils down to personal preference. If you like the heavy metal frame of a Beretta, then that is a great pistol for you.
Anyone who says that a M9A1 was a bad choice is a fool, and most likely not as experienced with firearms as they would like to have you believe. Now if you came in here talking about choosing a Kimber over a Glock, my response would have had an entirely different tone.Who knows.maybe after a few thousand rounds downrange you will want something different from a pistol.
I know, personally speaking, my first gun was a P30 and so I thought H&Ks were the best guns out there. I then switched to a Sig Sauer P226, and, consequently thought that was the best kind of pistol. Finally, after about 7k rounds downrange between the two aforementioned, I finally realized Glock had everything I was looking for.
And here I am now, 10k rounds later, and Glock still offers everything I want in a handgun.So go enjoy your Beretta. Don't second guess yourself.
Put several thousand rounds through it and learn what you like versus what you don't like. If you ever end up deciding on a Glock as a future purchase, will be here to answer any of your questions. They are both quality pistols with long service histories and good availability of parts, accessories and support.That said, the M9 is going to be a more difficult pistol to master for a beginner because of the DA/SA trigger transition. You may want to cheat and only start shooting from a cocked hammer, but this is rarely a good idea. On the other hand, you can make this work for you, if you can get a handle on making the DA pull without disturbing your sights, you will have also mastered every other pistol on the planet. And since you don't need to repeatedly rack the slide to dryfire, you can get in a lot of practice quickly and easily.The M9 also has a couple of design drawbacks. I don't like the locking decocker / safety, as it cannot be easily deactivated from a firing grip.
It's also easy to unintentionally lock the safety on if you have to rack the slide for any reason.Most shooters will not notice a big difference in reliability or durability. But if you start to get up into the five figures round count, you will want to keep an eye on the M9's locking block.
Just like the G19, it's a good idea to make a habit of changing your recoil spring every few thousand rounds.The M9 is a perfectly serviceable pistol and you could've done a lot worse for the same money. If it works for you then rock on and get out there and shoot it. Take a class, shoot some matches. If you find it's not working out, you'll get a good trade-in for it.Good luck!. I personally own a Glock 17 (full size version of the 19), AND a Beretta M9A1. I have both, 92FS and Px4 Storm SC 9mm, and what changed my mind from Beretta to Glock was:.I started to prefer the consistent trigger pull of the Glock over the double then single.
That long double first pull on Beretta turned me off after working with Glocks for a while.Grip and rip during tap/rack/bang drills and reload drills were much more comfortable and easier on the Glock in my opinion, over time the Beretta's slide + external safety started to tear at my hands, the Glock does not. The slide is also just smoother on the Glock for me.Weight!
The Glock is much lighter.The 92 FS was my first gun I ever purchased, way back in the olden days when they were first released to the public and made popular in Die Hard. Love the gun and have loyalty to it, but I am now a full convert. Just one man's opinion. My Beretta 92FS was about my third or fourth handgun (first was Glock 17). I really did not like the loong DA trigger pull. It took me a while to even pull that sucker back and kinda keep it on target.
The Glock learning curve is pretty long too ('Glock shoots low and to the left'), but man that DA pull still ain't pretty. I mostly use it for dry fire practice now. During the DA pull, if that trigger is not pulled back exactly straight, the front site sure does wobble.It was actually after getting the 92FS, that I decided to just stick with Glocks. Glocks are so butt simple to operate and one is available in pretty much any caliber or size.
This shouldn't even be a question. The Glock 19 wins. Also, it's 2012. Polymer is your friend. You put a Beretta through a torture test that a Glock would pass(with flying colors, no less), the Beretta will fail miserably, all steel or not. And yes I am biased, but rightfully so.
The Glock 19 is widely considered the best handgun for the money on the entire planet, and for numerous reasons.It's a Glock; The most durable, reliable, utilitarian handgun on the planet. I have NO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA malfunctions with my 19. Just doesn't happen. Glock are EXTREMELY easy to field strip and clean. They only have 34 moving parts which also makes them one of the easiest guns on the planet to detail strip and reassemble. They will eat ANY ammunition you put through them and will do so even when dry as a bone. Simply put, Glock is the Ak47 of handguns.
Damn near indestructible, reliable, and will last FOREVER.It's not only a Glock, but it's a 9mm which again is regarded as the finest round for self defense, especially with modern defense ammunition, IE; Bonded, Jacketed, Hollowpoints. (I personally recommend the Hornady Critical Defense. It's an absolutely amazing performer.).It's a 19.
The Glock 19 obviously has the fantastic Glock ergonomics, but it also is, in my opinion the PERFECT size handgun. It is a compact but has enough room a for a full hand, 3 finger grip. It also manages to have a nice capacity of 15+1 while being concealed with relative ease.
I've never felt another gun that feel so goddamn good in my hand. Ever.The trigger. You can't beat a stock Glock trigger in my opinion, especially on the Gen4 models. Absolutely beautiful.No 'break in time'. Glocks are ready to go right out of the box.Did I mention it's a Glock?.Not that you'll ever need it, but Glock customer service is second to none.I could go on for days.
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So my answer, in short; Sack up. Admit to your buddy that he was right. Go buy a 19.or a 17.or a 26.or all the Glocks.and shoot the fuck out of them.My name is CodenameDeadpool and I am a Glock addict.I honestly think that Berettas/Sigs are easier to take down than Glocks. That's probably just me.So are Berettas.Subjective.Subjective.I busted out my 92 manual and it doesn't state a recommended break in period, either. Maybe it's just because it's something like 22 years old? Maybe the new ones have one.
I don't know.Yes.Yeah I have no idea.I just realized that I'm talking out of my ass. Gimme a break. Ignore all that up there and just know this. His buddy wasn't right. 'I personally like the Beretta' is proof of that. Friend of mine bought a Walther PK380 last week.
Would I pick it? Does that mean he shouldn't have gotten it? He loves that thing. Just because you really like one brand of something, it doesn't automatically make all other brands shit. (this also applies to guns, musical instruments, cereal, cars, TVs, etc.)My name is Cygnus311 and I like both Glock and Beretta.